Now that three weeks have passed
since our ghastly election I've decided to post something political after all. Sorry, but I've gotta do it. I'll be positive, though, I promise.
In these past weeks I’ve tried, as have many others, to understand what happened. Clearly, getting my news from the mainstream media alone isn’t sufficient. I do my best to see both sides by reading The NYT and Washington Post for the left, the WSJ for the right and Time and The Economist for the middle but this didn’t prepare me nor has it helped me to understand. What to do? I decided to go outside my comfort zone and look at some of the blogs I’ve heard so much about but have diligently avoided. This led me to a post on GraniteGrok (http://granitegrok.com/blog/ 2016/11/open-letter-hillarys- supporters) which professes to be a reach-out to those who voted
for Hillary. An attempt at an olive
branch so to speak. I decided to take
him at his word so I responded to his post.
I’m still waiting for his response but thought why not post it on my own
blog so here it is.
In these past weeks I’ve tried, as have many others, to understand what happened. Clearly, getting my news from the mainstream media alone isn’t sufficient. I do my best to see both sides by reading The NYT and Washington Post for the left, the WSJ for the right and Time and The Economist for the middle but this didn’t prepare me nor has it helped me to understand. What to do? I decided to go outside my comfort zone and look at some of the blogs I’ve heard so much about but have diligently avoided. This led me to a post on GraniteGrok (http://granitegrok.com/blog/
Dear Mr. Kofalt,
Since your proposal to work
together to further civilized debate makes complete sense I decided to do
something I’ve never done. I’m
responding to a blog posting. Or, as you’ve phrased it, the ball is in my court
so I’m playing it.
First, I should clarify that just
like you, most likely, aren’t an “alt right” Trump voter, I’m not a “liberal”
Hillary voter. Otherwise, both of us
wouldn’t be trying to bridge this communication gap. The good news is that we’re not isolated
examples. We each represent what I think
is a majority of our respective voting blocks, people who don’t enjoy this conflict
and would like to reach common ground.
This was the tenth presidential election in which I’ve voted, each time
as a registered Republican. Five times I
voted for the Republican, four times for the Democrat and once for Perot (a
wasted vote which I still regret). When
asked, I describe myself as fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Entering the homestretch of this year’s
election I confess that I was indeed, to use your words, one of those who
thought all Trump supporters were hate mongers, Neanderthals and uneducated
dolts. The election changed this,
however, because too many people that I know, respect and love voted for
him. This is not something to be
casually shaken off and on its own will not go away. We need to work together to understand each
other.
Hopefully, you will not be
surprised that I agree fully with you on some of your points while on others we
share the basic objective but differ only on the path to get there. Also, and
most importantly, I am 100% in agreement that we need to allow or, better yet,
encourage, civilized dissent. I also
agree that even speech which might be interpreted as hateful or hurtful must be
permitted. I think that you would
agree, though, that speech that can be interpreted as hateful usually doesn’t
contribute to civilized discussion (on both sides, of course).
You mention that I may consider
you a racist and xenophobe if you object to open borders and unrestrained
immigration. Well, I’m am not a
proponent of unrestrained immigration either so if that is the extent of your
objection then my opinion is that you are not a racist or xenophobe. However, if you believe that we should
categorically restrict immigration on the basis of religion then, on that
point, we disagree. Do you? Just trying to drill down to fully to understand
the nature of our disagreement, if there is one.
You express concern that if you
oppose a massive, failed welfare state in which hard-working people pay to
sustain a permanent underclass then I will consider you selfish and
mean-spirited. I am also not a fan of
unrestricted welfare but do you include access to health care in the welfare
bucket? As I’m sure you’re aware, it is
children who suffer disproportionately when access to health care isn’t
available. Is that what you want? If the answer is yes, then I do think that
you are being selfish and mean. If not,
we agree again.
On the matter of the environment,
I don’t know anyone who hates it and most people I know, including those who
voted for Hillary, support America’s quest for energy independence. So I think I agree with you on this one
too. I do believe, however, that some
energy sources can be more damaging to the environment than others and that
this should be part of any reasonable discussion. Coal
is a valid source of energy as long as the power plants are properly
regulated. If not, well, that’s why all
of the buildings were black in Europe a hundred years ago and China’s air is so
awful today.
You noted that I might consider
anyone who isn’t convinced that man-made global warming is real to be an
ignorant flat-earther who simply doesn’t believe in science. My perspective on this is that no one
absolutely knows what is going to happen but there are many well respected
scientists who make good arguments for the global warming side and the
consequence for ignoring it is pretty dire.
It’s a huge gamble, one whose down side is a price that we, those living
now, will not have to pay. So, my
position is that there’s too much at stake and ignoring it is less a matter of
ignorance and more a matter of selfishness.
Are you that selfish? Probably
not.
You’re concerned that I think you
hate women if you (I quote you directly here) “object to butchering children in
the womb or even as they are in the process of being born, cutting them up, and
selling their body parts.” This is the
only point you made in a way that you should be ashamed of. Clearly no one feels that way, certainly not
in the provocative way you’ve phrased it.
I am very much not a proponent of abortion and would never advise
someone else to have an abortion. But I
feel equally strongly that it is not my choice to make for someone else. I do, however, understand the point I think
you have attempted to make so do not feel at all that this means you hate
women. It would be better, though, to
make your point in another way. It’s not
very helpful towards furthering the dialog you profess to favor.
You resent being told that if you
have any concerns about allowing men to use women’s bathrooms you are a reactionary
bigot. I assume that you refer to the
gender identity issue and whether people who are born one sex but identify with
the other should be allowed to use that bathroom. I admit to not understanding the gender
identity thing. You have a woman who
thinks she’s a guy and therefore lives as a guy. Does that person then date a woman? Does that woman know that he was a she? Like I said, I don't get it but my position
is that I don't have to get it. “It”
doesn’t affect me. Now if we take this
same example and apply it to the bathroom concern, we have this person that
looks and behaves like a guy being forced to use the woman’s bathroom. Do you really want that? Probably not so I don’t think you’re a bigot.
I just think you haven’t really discussed this with someone on that side of the
fence. Have you?
I’m glad that you don't think
that others’ sex lives are your business.
There are some who do but that number is small and dropping
quickly. In any event, I never considered
this to be a Trump supporter position anyway.
The matter of photo ID at the
polls always seemed to me to be a solution looking for a problem. I’m not aware of a voter fraud problem. I’ve looked and looked and haven’t found any
evidence. If you’ve got any, please let
me know. If not, why do anything that
makes it more difficult to vote? I don’t
think you are a fascist and I don’t think that you explicitly want to deny
people the right to vote but this action has that effect. Bottom line, again, is why? Why do anything that makes it even a little
more difficult to vote and brings no advantage and solves no problem? But I do think that for some people minority
vote suppression is the objective.
On the gun control issue, I’m
certain that there are very few creepy “gun nuts” with paranoid tendencies and
an inclination towards violence.
Therefore, I do not think that you or other Trump supporters are
categorically such people. I confess
that I don’t understand the desire to own assault weapons but I don’t
understand the desire to attend opera either.
For me, it’s not a hill to die on so while I disagree with unfettered
access to guns of all shapes and sizes, I don’t resent you voting in this direction.
Muslim immigration. Oops, here’s one where I think we do sharply
disagree. I do consider those who
support restrictions on immigration of Muslims (refugees or otherwise) to be
religious bigots. It’s pretty much the
definition of a religious bigot. This is
probably the issue on which Trump has been most irresponsible. Probably no
common ground here, though, so let’s agree to disagree and move on.
Your concern that I believe you
are a racist if you don't fully support Barack Obama and all of his policies is
unfounded. I don’t support everything
he’s done either. I’m generally happy
with what he’s done but not everything.
So, we’re in agreement again.
The next concern is that I think
that if you didn’t vote for Hillary then you are denying women the dignity and
equality that they deserve. I might have
said this in July once Trump was declared the Republican candidate, mostly
because I thought he was so unqualified and I would have been searching for any
explanation for those who supported him.
It would definitely not have been because I thought Hillary deserved it
though. No one “deserves” the
presidency. It’s not a reward, it’s a
job of great responsibility. Ultimately,
the way things went down on November 8th convinced me that there is
indeed an explanation besides misogyny.
We do not have 25 million misogynistic women. They voted for him for another reason as, I
assume, did you. I need to work harder
to understand this better. I hope that
you appreciate that the time I’ve spent writing this shows that I’m trying.
So, there we have it. We either agree on most points or at least I
don’t think negatively of you for taking the positions you have. There is one where I think you seem to be a
religious bigot but on the whole, pretty reasonable. Certainly a starting point for further,
spirited but civilized, discussion.
On the general topic of Barack
Obama, he’s clearly taken some actions that you disagree with. I’m pretty sure that Trump will now enact
some changes that I will disagree with but it’s hard to say just yet as there
may be a big difference between his campaign rhetoric and what he actually
intends to do. I hope so anyway. One of the points you didn’t make, one which
I would have fully agreed with, is that there is a huge dissatisfaction with
the growing gap between rich and poor and how the middle class is being
ignored. I’m surprised you didn't raise
it since I think it is one of the main reasons Trump won the election. Sanders
is the only candidate who would have attempted to address this. He wouldn’t have gotten very far but he would
have tried. Trump implies he will
address this. At least that is the understanding
that many of his supporters have. I hope
he will and I am ready to give him a chance.
How did I do in explaining my
position in a civilized fashion? Can we
continue the dialog?
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